Penn Jillette: 'Apprentice' Tapes Exist of Donald Trump Making Racist Remarks

Angelo Anderson
August 18, 2018

Magician Penn Jillette, who appeared on Celebrity Apprentice in 2012, told Vulture he definitely heard "racially insensitive things" but refused to try and quote because he was anxious about inaccuracy. Jillette described "those two hours every other day in a room" with Trump "every ten minutes" was like "fingernails on chalkboard".

Trump has been plagued by secret recordings made by associates, including his former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen and former White House aide and thrice Apprentice contestant Omarosa Manigault-Newman.

Interviewer David Marchese asked Jillette if "Apprentice" creator Mark Burnett holds compromising recordings of Trump, an apparent reference to the tapes Manigault Newman has suggested exist.

At one point, he also suggests there are tapes of Trump using compromising language but did not say what they might contain. Asked if she could say with certainty that Trump had never used the N-word, she said, "I haven't been in every single room", though she stressed that the president has addressed the question and denied ever using such language. And he is sure of this because, "I was in the room", he told Vulture in an interview posted Tuesday.

Jillette also recalled taking stock of his experience with Trump on Celebrity Apprentice and concluding early on that he would turn out to be a "terrible" president.

However, Mr. Jillette stated he wouldn't share his memory of what the president actually said, because he was an "unreliable narrator".


But he wouldn't go into detail on the comments, saying if Trump hadn't been elected president, he would, but the "stakes are now high and I am an unreliable narrator". Don Junior said - and I'm proud of this - that of everybody who had been on Celebrity Apprentice, I was the one who enjoyed it the most.

Central to her argument that Trump is racist is her claim that she had heard an audiotape of him using the N-word.

The magician said he would have been more open about his recollection if Trump hadn't been elected president.

"I want those tapes to be used against him", the comedian remarked, but believes the context behind why he said what he did would make the situation complicated. By the way, I didn't enjoy it. And I said, "I made a movie called The Aristocrats". I like Bob Dylan. In a recent interview, he claimed to have personally witnessed Trump making racially offensive comments when he appeared on Celebrity Apprentice's 2012 season. I love the Beat poets.

Here's an excerpt from the interview, which you can read in full here.

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